Discovering Durham University with @thedurhamstudent

What's it like to study Law at Durham

Episode Summary

Join host Tain as she talks with two first-year international students, Mwambu and Isabella (both at St Chad’s), as they share what it’s like to study Law at Durham.

Episode Notes

From their journeys into Durham and their first impressions, to navigating the demands of a law degree, making friends, and building a life beyond academics, they offer an honest and insightful look at the realities of being a law student here.

We cover everything from daily routines and favourite modules to overcoming challenges and finding your place in a new environment. For anyone considering Law at Durham, this episode is packed with practical advice, personal reflections, and encouragement from students who are living it right now.

Timestamps

0:36 – Journey into Durham Law

3:50 – Expectations before arriving

6:55 – A typical day studying law

10:03 – Life beyond law

14:57 – Finding your place at Durham

18:33 – How it feels to study law

23:35 – Most interesting aspects of law

29:25 – Reflections on first year

33:03 – Final words of wisdom

Episode Transcription

Intro

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Hi, it's me Tian with a Durham student and today I'm here with my law friends to give you guys inside scoops into what

it's like being a law student in Durham. Just giving your Durham stats. So that's your name, college, year group, and a

bonus one, where are you guys from. Hi guys, I'm Isabella. I'm from Hong Kong in St. Chhats College doing law. Hi

guys, I'm Wamboo. I'm in St. Chad's College and I'm from Zambia. Yeah, I guess um just to get started

right away, what was your journey into coming to Durham and like wanting to

Journey into Durham Law

pursue law? Okay, so it's a bit complicated for me. Um I barely scrapped the grades in DSSE,

but I decided to took a gap year because I'm still not sure whether I want to do law. I was struggling between law and

psychology. But like in the end there like I've thought of lot of things like let's say for money prospects, job

prospects and of course I need to respect my family's wishes. So here I am. My journey is kind of a little bit more

straightforward. I've always wanted to do law since I was about 10 years old. I've always planned to come to the UK

because I wanted I wanted it to set me apart in the job market once I became a lawyer. Uh so my ambition is to start my

own firm. So coming to the UK was a decision I made because I wanted to equip my skills myself with the skills

that would kind of set me apart from everyone else back home. Uh coming to Durham was a little bit more complicated

because I had such a wide variety of choice. I got all of my choices um from my UKcast list. So it was pretty much a

which one is the best and I feel like Durham was the best thing for me and yeah there's history

to add on. So I was initially designing between Durham and Manchester Law because for Manchester I think for my

year there are around like at least 10 students in like in my year in my school

that went to Manchester Uni. But like I don't think there are any like students from my old um high school

that went to Durham. So I was struggling at first. But I feel like Durham Law is

more is more like um wellknown and it kind of gives a more successful and

poshy vibe story. But yeah, so it's because it sounds more prestigious. So that's why I chose Durham than

Manchester. Uh my choice for Durham was pretty much it wasn't a prestige thing because one

of my choices was Cambridge and I did actually get into Cambridge but uh wasn't so successful on offer day but

that's a story for another time. The reason why I chose Durham was the community feel because when I visited Durham, I visited Durham outside of TDA.

So I saw Durham the city. I didn't see Durham the university. So when I saw Durham the city, I was greeted by loads

of people who no who had no idea where I was from, who had no reason to greet me whatsoever, no reason to be that nice to

me, but for some reason they were. And this community in Durham sort of spoke

to me. I said if I want to go somewhere that's supposed to develop me

holistically, not just develop me academically and whatnot because you can have all the prestige in the world, but

if you're not holistic, then there's no value for you in the workplace. So I decided to make the decision to

come to Durham because it was the more holistic choice for me. I could have gone to Liverpool, I could have gone to York, I could have gone to Leeds, but

Durham was the one that spoke to me the most and said, "This is the place for you." And that's what made me decide to

pick Durham. It picked me before I picked it. Oh, that's a great way of phrasing it.

And then I guess yeah, um, staying back in time like when you guys Yeah. before you were coming to Durham, like what was

some of the assumptions you had or like how has expectations compared to

Expectations before arriving

reality? Has anything changed or has anything surprised you in any sense at being in Dura? Not gonna lie, I was

binge watching YouTube videos on how to choose a college and well my cousin my cousin initially chose Durm Law uh and

she picked Chads and she and she also went to like a lot of open days and she told me well it's actually a pretty nice

college for her and I initially just wanted to like follow her footsteps and whatnot but like for now I get the ch

like I I get a chance to choose my colleges then I started like watching those like a a lot of videos, but I

don't think there are a lot actually to be honest. We'll work on that. But uh like at the end I chosen chats because

it's kind of ridiculous, but it's more like in the Bailey. It's kind of like the less

posh college that you can get. It's more like it's more down to earth.

It's more down to earth and well people are kind of rumored to be nice. So I was like, "Okay, fine. I wanted the Bailey

lifestyle. So why not? Most people back home don't really know much about Durham because uh back in

Zambia if you do have the privilege to go abroad because not everyone gets the privilege. If you do get the privilege

to go abroad the most well-known universities are probably Nottingham, Leeds, uh places like that, Manchester.

So I didn't have much much of I didn't have much avenue to make assumptions about Durham. I had I have one friend

who's in um she's currently in second year. Her name is Divia. She told me quite a bit about Durham because obviously she came before me and she

told me she had a wonderful time at Durham and honestly I believed her because if anyone has good judgment it's

Dia. So ultimately I took her word and obviously you know when you watch videos

on Tik Tok watch videos on YouTube as much as they do provide a perspective

that's just a single story and there's a danger in just listening to just a single story. So obviously I

took Divia's testimony. I took testimonies from YouTube and Tik Tok and things like that. And then obviously

visiting Durham before I actually made my choice then like made me build um a

more a more informed knowledge of Durham. So I wouldn't say I had assumptions per se, but I suppose my

only assumption was wow this place is a ghost town. Like wow, it must be in the

middle of nowhere. I'm not going clubbing anytime soon. But that that assumption was quickly changed.

We have a social life. Exactly. It was quickly changed when I first went to Jimmy's. And then you can tell that MUM is a law

student like just through, you know, like you said, don't just look at one thing. Look at all the different evidences and like also if you do want

to contact someone like to speak on one, there's unibody which you can reach out to like live students like it's actually

students responding to. So, if you did want more insider, but hopefully we're gonna give you guys enough today. And

yeah, um just moving on um back to like now you're in Durham. What has your

typical day looked like studying law? Oh, wow. I wouldn't say I have a typical

A typical day studying law

day cuz to be honest, my typical day is kind of boring, not going to lie. So, it's more So, it's more like let's say

um let's say on Tuesdays. So, you go to your a.m. luxury. If you can wake

up, then um wake up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like for an hour, then head back to your dorm. And if there's a

tutorial, then prep for that. If you've done that before, then um just make

lunch cuz I love out. So, um and go to the lecture at 2, right? Yeah. I go to

lecture at 2. Then later on, like for an hour, that's it. I guess

that's my typical day. Yeah. Uh, my typical day is kind of different cuz I like to switch things up.

I feel like there's a danger in being too complacent in a routine. So, I like to surprise myself almost. So, obviously

preparing for a lecture, usually when I have a.m. I'm up at cuz I I like I I like my time, you know.

I like I like a good hour of a whole shower, moisturize, all of that. I like

to do that in the morning. He likes his skincare routine. Exactly. So obviously get prepped for

the morning, have breakfast. You don't want to start the day on an empty stomach. That's too expensive. Um so

after lectures I pretty much say what study space haven't I explored? So be it

the Bill Bryson library or um the Anne Gilbert room in um or yeah

the yeah the study room in the law school um Elvet Riverside all sorts of

places. The Durham Student Union. So I pick a study place. I say, you know what? I'm going to study over there. Sit

down, do as much as as much work as I can. I like to mix and match. So, if I do maybe an hour of contract, an hour of

toilet, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, prepare for my seminars, kind of do some reading, and then, you

know, I'm back home. And once I'm back home, I've sort of put in a routine that

everything that I do school-wise, I'm not carrying school into my room with me. It's like I don't bring work home.

Oh, yeah. That's a clear distinction. Yeah. So once I'm in my room, I'm in my room to chill. So if I don't if I don't

want to sit down and chill, I won't be in my room. But if I want to chill, I'll be in my room. And that's kind of like

my typical day. So just surround it around that. Cuz honestly, if you just pick a like a stuck routine for a day,

you're going to get quite bored of it. And you'd be doing things like a chore instead of doing things because you have

to. So I like to mix it up a little bit. If I get too bored then cuz I love out.

So, I have like a lot of flat mates. Um, one of the nicest ones called Lyanna. She's really nice and we'll occasionally

bake together and we'll have dinner. A that's so sweet. Um, I guess a lot of people's assumption with studying law is

that it's very intense, difficult, you have to study all the time and you guys seem to like manage balancing. So, like

I guess for people out there thinking that it's intense like um and law is all

you do, is that necessarily true? Um, what do you guys do beyond law? For one

Life beyond law

part that I'd say is you like everyone will struggle I think. Well, maybe it's

just me, but um I struggled at first to adapt to the writing style and everything cuz it's really different.

So, let's say like back in Hong Kong, we took the English exam called like the DSSE English. So, like I got a like I

got a pretty good grade there. Okay. But the full marks in that DSSE English

doesn't mean that you're capable at like writing a law essay that is fit to uni

standards. I really needed to like adapt to the like to the writing style and how

like the professors are going to judge it. So I did struggle back then. But

how did you overcome that struggle would you say? I asked a lot of um my tutors

and also my peers and also like someone that is from like another department

that's not from law to read my essay and see like what kind of like logical fallacies do I have and how to correct

that. So that really helped a lot. But in terms of like non-law aspects, I'd say

try to go for some like like try to go and join some clubs or try to discover

something new that you were like afraid to try before or that um you just like

you just feel like let's say I like I joined u the Japanese society because I

am interested in Japanese culture and I do speak a bit Japanese. So um that's

why I joined these like societies that are not law ones just to keep your like

your life more diverse. Yeah. Um for me, let me preface this by saying

whatever I do isn't a one-sizefits- all thing. Everyone is everyone is

different. But one thing I can assure you is that when you do start uni, you will struggle. And you'll struggle because the work is

very intensive. You might think, "Oh, I'm just doing one subject. It's not like school. I'm doing one subject that

I actually picked." As much as you are doing one subject, you're doing the work of, imagine the work of all of your A

levels, all of your GCSEs. Imagine all of that packed into one particular subject. That's what a university degree

is like. And law is kind of similar. Law involves a lot of reading, um, a lot of intense understanding. So, in terms of

intensity, yes, law is intense, but what makes it more intense is not having a

balance. I know it might seem like law firms all over the world won't pick you if you

don't get your first in first year, if you don't get a 21-1 or if you're not um living breathing the law. Like it might

seem that way, but I can tell you that the opposite is true. Law firms,

employers, anyone in this world is looking for someone who has personality beyond what they study. So, as a result,

my sort of interests outside of law, um, stuff like I do theater. So, I've been

doing theater since I was 12 years old. Um, I write poetry. Um, I listen to loads of music. I used to write, mix,

master, and make my own music as well. Come on. Um, I also dabbled a little bit in

boxing. I did call it rugby, college football, things like that just to keep

myself from worrying too much about my degree because it is quite worrying and it is quite scary. But it becomes more

intense for you when it controls every aspect of your life. Yes, do go and join

law society. Do go and join bar society. I'm part of those societies. But same here, they shouldn't be your be all and end

all. allow yourself to explore because this is this moment that you have in university is going to be the last

moment that you have to truly do things for yourself. So true because once you become an adult now you

have family to take care of. Now you have responsibilities to not just yourself but to your workmates and

everything. So enjoy yourself while you can. If you've never done rowing before,

sign up for rowing. If you've never acted before, please please sign up for a play. you might find me. Durham

Theater is a lovely, lovely community. If you ever run into me while we're doing a show, just say, "Hey, I listened

to your podcast when I was when I was in A levels and it really calmed me down and I'll give you a high five. Probably

won't buy you anything because I don't have much money, but yeah, life as a uni student is quite

broke." Yeah. All I can say is enjoy yourself. Enjoy yourself and explore.

Yeah, give yourself grace, guys. Like I know coming out of back of A level like everyone's worked really hard but you're

at university you deserve to be there and I know like a big struggle is like imposter syndrome feeling like am I

qualified to be here I don't know if you guys have had that with law like you know the competitiveness of like do I

deserve to be here and I guess yeah how have you like found your feet like coming to Durham like you know back from

Finding your place at Durham

fresher week till now like how have you seen this year like you settling in and

what tips would you give for settling in it. One piece of big advice, don't ever compare yourself to anyone else because

everyone is different. So what I did was that I to be honest like even till now

I'm still like experiencing bits of imposter syndrome because unlike everyone durm is my firm choice instead

of like an insurance. So you would like the rumors of like oh having a lot of Oxbridge rejects well if you go and ask

someone whether they're an Oxford reject or not then they are going to tell you the answer yes or no. But the problem is

why are you asking this question? Because you're seeking for like what approval or are you seeking for someone

that is way better than you or you're seeking something else. So let's say if you don't care you don't ask like that

person then that person just remains like someone that is still like let's

say on the same level of you you assume it then it will be like slightly better.

For me as an international student, it was a was a weird switch. Yeah. Because life outside of the UK and life

in the UK is completely different. And usually you run into situations where people will automatically assume that

you understand what in the world is going on. I know um I struggled particularly when

people would talk about places like Manchester being northern or Durham being northern. In my head, I would I

would think, well, geographically speaking, Durham is northern, but Manchester is more central. But it's

it's things like that that will initially make you think, and it's not just international students. Home students might feel this as well because

Durham is really diverse um in terms of people's backgrounds and where they come from and things like that. So, you might

feel as though I don't belong here. I I'm really out of my depth. That's just

a lie that you're telling yourself because you're scared. Honestly, um my

key to fitting in was if someone doesn't like me

while I'm being authentic, then they don't deserve me kind of thing. Um so that was kind of like my mindset going

in. Be as authentic as you can. Be you. There's no point in being fake or

pretending and things like that because it's much more putrid when you pretend than when you're actually authentic. And

you might come

the whole of the whole of your university life. So be out there, explore, you know, allow yourself to

just be with everything and you'll fit in much quicker that way rather than you

thinking, "Oh, this person like me. Oh, this person like me. Should I wear these clothes? Maybe these people like it.

maybe I should wear a Pink Floyd shirt because I want to hang out with the rock crowd kind of thing.

Um, so yeah, just be yourself and trust me, the imposter syndrome will be there

at first, but it will simply just fade away, especially when you find your people. Like Moi said, there's such a diversity

of students, so you can find your people. And we'll be having an episode about how do you find your people. But

yeah, moving back onto law. So, I'm sure there's a lot of um future lawyers probably watching this. Um what have you

felt like um how have you felt your degree is like, you know, in terms of what did you really enjoy like studying?

What does a lecture look like? What do seminars even look like? Um and yeah,

How it feels to study law

how have you found studying law in general? Okay, so lectures they last for an hour.

Mhm. And for our first year, we don't get to choose um modules. We only have like uh

compulsory modules. Compulsory modules. Yeah, we have five then. Yeah, six if you're in like if

you're including the English law one, but that's like only for the first term. And also there's this thing called like

the employment course, but that one do you count it? I'm

It's more um to increase your employability skills once you finish. So it's not exactly a course that you

need to study. So each only have five and um we have seminars for um but like

to be honest seminars and tutorials they're basically the same thing where like there's just a group of people gathered here and you have your tutorial

sheet uh which is basically like um past papers or like essay questions or like problem based questions for you to

prepare then um just present it to the class but for each tutor like their

tutoring method may be different. So let's say for um let's say for UK con

which which is short for UK constitutional law. Uh for our group it's more like um a group discussion

then we present our ideas to others and by these efforts we all finish one

tutorial sheet. Yeah. Um I'm going to sound like I work for Durham Law School but trust me they have

not endorsed this video. I haven't gotten a single pound of them. Um but

the Durham law course I feel is one of the better taught courses because first of all our degree is split into two. So

it's taught two ways. First with lectures and tutorials and seminars. So lectures um you'll be happy to know that

the lectures are optional but please do go for your lectures because if you miss a lecture trust me it shows. I I had a

teacher in high school who would tell me that you can miss my classes as much as you want or you cannot pay attention in

my class as much as you want but you will pay with your marks and it's exactly the same with DM law school as

much as lectures are optional and they are recorded so all of them are recorded the slides are all available they're all

there on blackboard which is our learning site as much as all of that is available please do make an effort to go

for lectures uh seminars and tutorials on the other hand are compulsory so seminars The tutorials will have smaller

groups of about 10 to 15 people maximum probably and you'll each be assigned a

tutor. Um so the tutor will be working you through the content for that week. So you get a reading list specifically

for your seminars that will be separate from your D your reading list on your lectures and you have some accompanying

questions that you have to answer. So these are discussion questions. Uh so during that session it's about an hour

you break down with your peers. Um each tutorial does each tutorial leader sort

of does their tutorials differently. Uh but all of my tutorial leaders have been excellent in terms of they break us down

into small groups. They make us discuss small questions. Um they have very very patient with you. I know it might seem

like I shouldn't talk in a seminar. I shouldn't talk in a tutorial because if I say something, I'll sound dumb. But

there's no such thing because our tutors are really, really good at encouraging

people to speak and encouraging them to even give wrong answers and then gently correcting. No one will shout at you. No

one will call you dumb. No one will say that you're not well read enough. Unless you've made a concerted effort not to

read, that will show. But if you've made an effort, the tutors will be very nice to you, very kind to you. Um, just to

talk a little bit about first year modules. Most courses allow you to pick your modules in first year, but law

won't do that for a very very very particular reason. So for you to have a

qualifying law degree in the UK, you need some foundational modules. So these foundational modules are contract law,

EU law. I know EU law seems pointless since we left since we left the EU but

but but but another debate but I don't want to spoil it but you'll see it is necessary. Uh so we have

contract law, EU law, TOR law, um tort law, we also have UK constitutional law,

individual and the state and English law, introduction to English law and legal method which basically teaches you

okay these are some terms that they use in English law. This is how the English legal system works. This is how you

answer essays. this is how you answer problem questions and things like that just to teach you how to get into your

degree. Um then in second and third year obviously you have more choice. So if

anything that is the quickest summary I could give you of the whole guide on how Durham teaches a law degree and

if you have any more questions please please please do put it in the comments down below guys.

Um, so yeah, I guess more per more uh I can't say this word specific

specific. You guys know what I'm on about within law? Like what did you like? Did you

learn something new or found really interesting like perhaps in your reading or in a lecture that you were just like

Most interesting aspects of law

whoa like Yeah. I don't know if you had any of those. Um yeah. Okay. So surprisingly cuz like coming

from a non-EU background and with like it was like the UK now

like not in the EU obviously. So I once hated you uh I once hated EU law so much

because it is like it is absolutely unnecessary for me. That's what I thought. But turns out the module that I

like the most is well EU law and also like let's say for other like

other modules other subjects let's say for um individual state which is some we

learned something like human rights and judicial review um I like for some process that I thought it's going to be

really simple turns out it's going to be really complicated and the debates that they have is also something that I've

never really anticipate ated when I learned law because the one like the one assumption that everyone may have is

that okay we are going to learn something really practical because it's a really practical subject

for like for law but actually like in order to fully understand it you need to

like immerse yourself into the debates so let's say if I were to be more

specific um maybe let's say in toward uh duty of

fair you have exceptions and those exceptions it may sound a bit unfair

let's say for um let's say for fair child or you you'll learn about this later um it like for me I personally

think that it's kind of a bit unfair to doctors so I actually got into a really

heated debate with like with the lecturer at that time but like in the end the problem's all

solved so like this is something that is um something that I didn't really

anticipate beforehand, but I did learn a lot by like having conversations or like

asking quote dumb questions because they like when it's given as a dumb question.

Yeah. There's no such thing. And because like when they do answer you, they'll give a really like thorough explanation

and you understand it more than before. Uh, a big wow moment for me when I

started law was learning how to sue people. You see, with tort law, tort law

teaches you all the different ways that you could take civil action against someone. And I kid you not, some of them

are very, very surprising. For instance, if you wanted to sue someone for a battery, simple unwanted,

let me use the actual definition. The application of unlawful force is a

battery. Now, that that unlawful force needs to be outside of what is the regular conduct of daily life. Meaning

that if someone randomly decides to push you while you're walking the middle of the street, this is not a concert, it's

not a club, anything like that. If someone decides to push you for no apparent reason whatsoever, you could

have a claim for them in battery. Obviously, you'd have to prove it, but you could have a claim for them in battery. What I'm illustrating by this

rather silly point is that I learned within DM law school that law has practical applications in life. That

might sound like, wow, Mambu, that's so surprising. Wow, law is practical. But what I mean

by that is that you can build your understanding of how the law works by using simple everyday examples. You

don't have to think of law as this big thing that oh all the big judges that went to Oxford and Cambridge really

understand how to break down the law. You could break down the law to a six-year-old and they will get it if you just have your understanding built up

enough where you can break it down to simple examples. Um another thing that I realized was the

skill of argument. You hear lots of people say, "Oh, I picked law because I just love to fight." As much as people

do say that, a fight in law is very different from a fight that you'd have with a friend over, I don't know, them

wearing shoes that you liked or or them hanging out with a guy that you like

kind of thing. By the way, that's that's a valid reason to cut someone off. If they hang out with the guy that you like, cut them off.

argument in law is so intricate in terms of you have your main argument, you have

counterarguments to your main argument. You're then using those counterarguments to strengthen your argument even more.

The thing is with law, your argument doesn't necessarily have to be correct. It's how well you can prove it. I could

very well tell you that Isabella's shirt is black even though Isabella shirt is white. But if I use enough legal

evidence to prove that Isabella's shirt might not actually be all that white and

could very well be black, I win the argument. Is actually legally black. So like same.

Okay. Same thing like tor law in defamation, let's say. Okay. So

uh not pretty well well legal advice is that be careful what you speak and what

you type and what you post on the net because because it is something that is

tangible. If it is something that is tangible permanent then it is actually an like

the statement is actually action like it's actionable actionable.

Yeah, as you can see law students talk in a different way, in a different language, but don't worry, you're like I think you

learn. And then I guess I know both of you too are first year like myself. I guess how have you feel like you know

reflecting how have you feel like this year went? I know you guys are both like so gracious given their time in middle

Reflections on first year

of exams but how have you found like from fresher week till now? Like how have you grown? How have you found law?

How have you adapted? I think I've evolved to a different person to be honest. like at the start of freshest week, everything is like,

"Oh yeah, I'll be fine. Just writing a few essays and like and like just enjoy my like just enjoy my UK life in the

fullest cuz like cuz like Hong Kong unis are pretty stressed out and there's even like like a university that they said is

quote quote like not from me quote like they said it's like a lot of stress and

tension. But I'm like okay well since I'm not in Hong Kong I'm in UK now so I can just like peace out. No, no, you're

entirely wrong. Like, like I still need to work hard and everything, but in the

process of working hard, you actually do learn a lot of stuff. Well, including the including the advices that we that

that like that we gave just now is something that you wouldn't have learned like if you're not really like really

drilling into your materials and like learning it. And also like you need to

learn how to talk to people. you need to learn how to socialize cuz it's emotional intelligence.

Yes, it's like really different from the way that Hong Kong works.

So, for now, like I think I have spoken differently and I think my personality

did change quite a lot compared. So, I'd say like this first year really changed me a lot. Well, aside from my waist size growing a

couple inches in this year. Um, aside from that, I feel like in terms of

growth, I've become a more open person. So, usually when you come

from usually when you come from all sorts of diverse backgrounds, especially when you come from um backgrounds that

are particularly sheltered, reserved, that kind of thing, your mind is not open to all sorts of possibilities and

all sorts of things being possible. But first year at this uni for me has sort of opened my eyes to different people's

lives. You know, it's called sa. The realization that people's lives are just as complicated as yours. I have had

extreme moments of s ever since I came to Durham. And I also feel like and bringing this back to law, I also feel

like doing this law degree has turned me into a person that saw things in a very

simplistic light, very surface level. Now I see the deeper issues. Now I see the nuances. Now I see all sorts of the

complications. You know, I don't just see a phone as a phone. I now see a

phone as um this was manufactured, this was designed by a company all the way in California, sent over to China,

manufactured by dubious labor practices, and then sent back for us to, you know,

have them as consumers. You know what I mean? Law allows you to look behind the curtain, so to speak, on life, that your

eyes are not only open, but your perspective on life is more full because it's much more fulfilling to see the

depth of things rather than just the surface. Trust me, the water looks much nicer underneath the surface than it

does when it's shining with the sunlight on top of it. That's a pretty This is branching to philosophy. It's reminded me of a Socrates quote. It's

better to be a pig dis No, not it's better to be a human dissatisfied than a

pig satisfied. Yeah, but okay. Um, so we're reaching. Thank you so much guys

for staying on so long. Hope you if you have comment down below, send in hearts and I just guess to sign off. Um, what

would be your final words of wisdom? Like final push like what would be your

Final words of wisdom

ultimate advice to a prospectus law student? Be yourself. be prepared to

face a lot of challenges and um persevere I hope.

Yeah, trust me your life starts now. This is the point where this is the real

beginning of your life where you get to decide on your terms. Before your parents decided where you go, what you

ate, things like that. Now it's your time to decide the direction that your life will go. And if you choose your

life to go into a direction that you don't like, that's up to you. But if you want your life to go into the direction

that you want, that you need, you have to put the work behind it. Especially in a place like this. Durham Law School is

quite a competitive law school. We have over 400 students in first year. Exactly. One of the very best. We have

over 400 students in first year. All of them want the same thing that you want, but how much more do you want it?

And my final final piece of advice before I keep on rambling is you should have picked Chads. If you didn't pick

Chads, you should have picked Chads. Don't worry if you're not in Chad. We do not mind everyone. I feel like whichever

college you do end up like you find your feet in that college as well. Yeah, you'll enjoy it. Yeah,

let's come to CHZ by the way. And then I guess yeah, I feel like just wrapping up from what you guys said,

it's like um guys like have fun. Like university is such a short time. Like we

will finish first year. We're like how are we no longer fresher? And like it's okay to make mistakes. You'll find your

feet and like you get out how much you put in. Okay. And that's a wrap. So thank you guys so much for listening in

and yeah, we hope to see you when you're in Durham. Bye bye.

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